if the american people wanted paul ryan's plan, they would have voted for paul ryan. they didn't. they voted for compromise. and that's not happening. wouldn't the most direct way, the best way would be a counteroffer of some sort? with specifics? >> well, you know, don, i think they have done that. i'm not in the room, so i can't say, you know what they're saying when they close the doors. by the way, you know, what i would love, don, you and i can both promote this idea. all of these negotiations should be in front of the cspan cameras and the cnn cameras, these should not be closed door negotiations. the american people should see what both sides are -- >> then it turns into a theater, though, stephen. >> no, no. look, but what happens now is everybody is -- somebody said this and nobody knows who is being really truthful about what's being offered. i think -- i shoot for transparency. i think this should all be in the sunlight and you would have monster ratings. people would tune in. >> i'm for tran paresparency bu grandstanding. >> i think this is probably going to linger on